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I don’t know where you’d read up on how to make a citizen’s arrest, even assuming there was some universal standard procedure… but my given understanding was that there is no such thing outside of TV. Cops in my experience have a very low tolerance for anyone encroaching on their vocational territory.
There are proper ways of doing a citizen’s arrest (this is part of the training to qualify for a guard license) but there is massive liability if you are wrong or do it wrong. Get the procedure wrong and you could end up facing kidnapping charges. For this and other reasons when I was trained we were told to not try it unless we were absolutely certain we were justified.
Which… would be one reason to read up on it 🙂
The procedure to follow vary from State to State, or Country but if citizens couldn’t do this it would make it close to impossible for private security to have any effect. Shoplifters are able to be detained on these bases.
http://www.duhaime.org/LegalDictionary/C/CitizensArrest.aspx
Here in Canada my security guard logbook actually has the procedure for what to do when making a citizen’s arrest. First off is basically “DON’T DO IT UNLESS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!” Followed by make it clear what you are doing, asking them to cooperate until the police arrive, and don’t search or question them until you hand them over to the cops. Finally it’s “DON’T USE FORCE UNLESS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY AND EVEN THEN USE THE MINIMUM AMOUNT!
Yeah, I got into an argument in one spot over whether a girl was in the right to deck a guy for grabbing her arm and not letting her go. He wanted to ask her on a date, she wasn’t interested, and he was insistent. Some folks were saying she was in the wrong, since he wasn’t “violent,” and just wanted a date. I pointed out that he committed the crime of unlawful detainment, and she was completely within her rights to do anything short of lethal or permanent damage response. As long as the response is “proportionate,” you can use force that would normally be assault against sexual assault or unlawful detainment, which is something all women should know. A slap in the face for a guy who grabs your ass isn’t an assault-by you anyway. You can still press charges for the sexual assault even if you successfully defend yourself too.
Sickens me that some people still blame the victim, specially if it’s a female
The fact he grabbed her arm and wouldn’t let go is an act of, if not violence, at least aggression
Yes, grabbing someone’s arm is assault and they have the right to defend themselves. Other things that change what you can do, since you can’t use deadly force unless there is a threat to you life. A big thing that can change the whole thing is the amount of training you had
Upper level martial arts fighters and boxers can have their skills classified as lethal weapons. And different places have different levels on what you can do to defend someone else
Your best bet in a fight is to make certain you don’t make the first attack and it is not unwise to pick up at least one impressive bruise, to prove you were at risk. Witnesses that saw the fight start are also helpful.